Ok Where'd it go?

Discussions about the use and operation of SAC (Software Audio Console)

Re: Ok Where'd it go?

Postby RBIngraham » Tue Feb 03, 2015 2:41 am

Don't worry, I do not have to inform SAFC (self appointed forum cop), it is fairly clear that he pops over and reads this forum as well.
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Re: Ok Where'd it go?

Postby tatkin » Tue Feb 03, 2015 10:26 am

jlepore wrote:You might tell the forum cop over there that the reason the break key by itself doesn't shut down the engine anymore (as the invincible BOB designed it to do) was because I screamed long enough after it took down my show (followed by me reprogramming my system not to do that with a large screwdriver - I still don't have a break key on that keyboard).

Perhaps he would like a version that still shuts down if you hit the wrong key in the dark.


Yes... Seems to me I remember that thread. The prevailing answer from L if I remember was that you just have to train your operators not to do that. Oh... and that in the hundreds of shows he has run it never happened to him and we should embrace the new paradigm.
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Re: Ok Where'd it go?

Postby RBIngraham » Tue Feb 03, 2015 10:34 am

And the master has now censored himself even....

Hmmmm... someone is reading this forum and reacting over on the other site.
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Re: Ok Where'd it go?

Postby airickess » Tue Feb 03, 2015 12:44 pm

BrettBrandon wrote:As you move the popup fader, the dial on the control you clicked also moves.

The above screenshot is actually the Touch version that has a much larger fader and touching a control opens the popup. It stays open till the time out is reached after moving it or touch a non control area of another channel.

The version Joe uses is setup for mouse use. The popup fader is only there as long as you click and hold. It also uses a smaller popup.

The beautiful thing is you can create whatever size popup and layouts you want.


Yes this thread has meandered a little bit....
Are you allowed to post any pictures of scenes windows and talk about scenes management? They are an integral part of my work flow.
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Re: Ok Where'd it go?

Postby RBIngraham » Tue Feb 03, 2015 1:28 pm

airickess wrote:Are you allowed to post any pictures of scenes windows and talk about scenes management? They are an integral part of my work flow.


What specifically would you like to know?" I will ask about posting a picture of it currently. It is similar to SAC except that it has an area where you can easily select/deselect channels to be recalled as part of the scene. So you don't have to leave the scene window to make a channel selection like you do in SAC.

There are a handful of fairly cool features for what we do that I will have to ask to speak about in public because they are not solidified yet and/or they are not hooked up or completed yet.
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Re: Ok Where'd it go?

Postby airickess » Tue Feb 03, 2015 7:53 pm

RBIngraham wrote:
airickess wrote:Are you allowed to post any pictures of scenes windows and talk about scenes management? They are an integral part of my work flow.


What specifically would you like to know?" I will ask about posting a picture of it currently. It is similar to SAC except that it has an area where you can easily select/deselect channels to be recalled as part of the scene. So you don't have to leave the scene window to make a channel selection like you do in SAC.

There are a handful of fairly cool features for what we do that I will have to ask to speak about in public because they are not solidified yet and/or they are not hooked up or completed yet.

Can you choose any channel parameter to be changed by a scene, as in SAC? Since AMP has DCAs, can you change DCA assignments with scenes? Since SAC doesn't have any DCAs, I use the channel latching feature to move groups of channel faders up or down (for chorus stuff).
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Re: Ok Where'd it go?

Postby BrettBrandon » Tue Feb 03, 2015 11:58 pm

This pretty much shows the parameters available for scenes.
You can select / deselect channels by clicking on them in the window.
The Media tab is for playing audio files and the Timing tab is for fade data.
Richard is definately the one to answer questions on use.
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Re: Ok Where'd it go?

Postby BrettBrandon » Wed Feb 04, 2015 12:18 am

This gives you an idea of what is available per channel (the eq and dynamics are included in the aux and master outs).
This is a channel strip I created that has two tabs.
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Re: Ok Where'd it go?

Postby RBIngraham » Wed Feb 04, 2015 11:47 am

airickess wrote:
Can you choose any channel parameter to be changed by a scene, as in SAC? Since AMP has DCAs, can you change DCA assignments with scenes? Since SAC doesn't have any DCAs, I use the channel latching feature to move groups of channel faders up or down (for chorus stuff).


You can see what parameters can be set to recall or not from the screen shot Brett posted.

Yes you can write scenes to reassign DCAs on the fly, just like we've been doing for years with hardware in theatre shows. I've been doing it that way since this past fall. AMP has real DCAs, you can assign any channel to them, inputs, outputs (which I use like Submasters) and Aux Sends (which I use as both Aux Sends and as Matrix Outputs). You determine how many DCAs you need up to 32.

It will blow away all that latching bullshit that was in SAC.


Since Brett posted the picture, figure I might as well explain the other tabs. The Media tab is a media player. Eventually the idea is that it will route to any of the virtual buses, meaning you could set up fairly complex routing by setting the source for multiple channels to the virtual bus. It should be simple, but fairly usable and I think it will likely cover all the playback needs of many of the musicals I design, since they usually don't need all that much playback.

The timing tab should be pretty cool when it's done and hooked up. Allows linking of scenes with time delays. So you can build a sequence of scene recalls. And although it's not hooked up yet there should be timed fades as there are in SAC.

I think any theatre sound designer will find AMP to be VERY useful in our work as long as they embrace using a computer to mix their sound.
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Re: Ok Where'd it go?

Postby airickess » Wed Feb 04, 2015 1:39 pm

So by "timed fades" do you mean times for fader moves? If so, and if this is not yet implemented, is there a default time for fader changes from scene to scene?
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