Paul Henry wrote:RBIngraham wrote:..you just have to download the extra chamber files and tweak things. .......
There's extra chamber files for RML Reverb??
http://www.totalsonic.net/sawpages/reverbpresets.htm
Paul Henry wrote:RBIngraham wrote:..you just have to download the extra chamber files and tweak things. .......
There's extra chamber files for RML Reverb??
dominicperry wrote:RBIngraham wrote:Dom, I think it has been all over for SAW for quite a while now.
Yeah, I know you're right. I just keep hoping. Lane automation drives me nuts. Bob's way of doing it is odd, but it suits me. Same as moving around the MT and dicing things up, I can do it really fast in SAW.
MidiWorkshop was always hateful.
Time to move on. I need to start enjoying the crashes in StudioOne. And it sounds like mud to me, but as we know, all DAWs are the same. It's in my head.........
I'm out of here. And there. Time for a new chapter.
Dominic
shmick wrote:Paul Henry wrote:RBIngraham wrote:..you just have to download the extra chamber files and tweak things. .......
There's extra chamber files for RML Reverb??
http://www.totalsonic.net/sawpages/reverbpresets.htm
dominicperry wrote:Time to move on. I need to start enjoying the crashes in StudioOne. And it sounds like mud to me, but as we know, all DAWs are the same. It's in my head.........
soundguy wrote:Either I'm missing your point, or you're missing mine. Saying that something dirt cheap like SAC is a good because of it's return on a $500 investment (plus computer and pre amp/coverters) is just plain silly.
That's like justifying a purchase of a $45 mic instead of the crowd pleasing SM57 at $90ish, because you got your money back in the first hour instead of the second hour. Or how about that $10 mic cable you picked up at Guitar Center instead of the $25 more robust version? Probably paid for that in the first twenty minutes ... and you can just toss it when it goes bad and buy another.
Now, taking the time to consider whether or not spending $15,000-$25,000 .... or even $5k ... is a serious business consideration if you are being beat up on your daily rental rate. But buying the cheapest shit known to mankind that you can squeeze audio out of is not a serious ROI consideration.
It's disposable junk that can get the job done with a resale value of next to nothing.
That can turn out to be a good thing like it has for you, or a bad thing if you have crashes due to poor design.
Soundguy
jlepore wrote:
That's great to know now that I don't use it anymore! Doh!
randyhyde wrote:Yeah, yeah, yeah. We understand. Unless we purchase a $300,000 console we're just not in the same class as you.
So let's do a realistic analog. I can justify the purchase of a $90ish SM57 rather than a DPA mic at $1,800.
Believe it or not, there is a pretty good industry built around shows and rental fees that can't justify the gear you're talking about. SAC competes reasonably well with boards in the sub-$10,000 range; arguably even those in the sub-$20,000 range.
Your distaste for SAC is well known.
Come back to me and talk about ROI when you're spending your own money on the sound gear you use. Personally, I don't believe you personally purchase gear that is significantly better than what you can do with SAC for under $10,000.
[/quote]For some outfits (like mine), the cost of training makes SAC a bad fit (I still have to personally attend most gigs where we use SAC because of the technical knowledge gap that exists; one of the reasons I am really interested in the A&H QU-24 board -- I can send a crew to a gig and not have to worry [as much] about something going wrong).
soundguy wrote:Your distaste for SAC is well known.
As is your unconditional love. I think I've stated dozens of times that don't have a problem with SAC as the right tool for the right job such as a church or bar band gig, just not the concert stage rental market.
Dude, I've been spending money on sound gear for 40 years, including a recently purchased PA ... and we're "talking" now. And you are just nuts to think that you can't buy a console "better" than SAC for $10K. Now this is where your buddy DF talks about useless features nobody gives a shit about to justify Bob L's "better than consoles costing hundreds of thousands of dollars" bullshit sales pitch that has failed his business. You can jump in here as well. And if I were to buy a console today, I think the B X32 at around $2.5K or the "core' with iPad under $1700 would smoke SAC in REAL WORLD application (not fantasy land applications based on useless features "no one else has").
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